[SchoolFinance] Social Security vs MEPers

Tue Jan 21 10:07:00 EST 2025

Not to complicate the discussion but...

We have a retired/rehired teacher who is now subbing for us and she is
asking to pay into SS in order to top off her quarters so that she will
qualify for SS benefits (she is 5-6 quarters shy of 40.)  The only thing we
could find on the SSA website was that the determining factor is a 218
agreement.  Since we don't have a 218 agreement for subs but subs can opt
in or opt out we are planning to allow her to opt in.   Would love to hear
thoughts from other business managers...

best,
Dhyana Blanchard
RSU 20
Searsport/Stockton Springs

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 9:56 AM Adam Hanson <
ahanson at lewistonpublicschools.org> wrote:

> Hi Lisa,
> I don't have anything from Drummond on this, but I believe what you heard
> is correct. Once the primary job becomes Maine PERS teacher plan, you no
> longer take SS out of "extra" work, even if it is not Maine PERS eligible.
> So you would take neither on the subbing.
> That has been my understanding for many years.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 9:48 AM Lisa Swift <lswift at veaziecs.org> wrote:
>
>> That is what I was told and always did, however I was told that a
>> district heard from Drummond that I wouldn't take either out of the subbing
>> now that her primary position is ET.  If that district can speak about that
>> and show us/me backup I would appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Swift
>> Business, Payroll and Human Resource Manager
>> Veazie School Department
>> 1040 School Street
>> Veazie, ME 04401
>> P: (207)947-6573 ext. 309     F: (207)947-6570
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 9:35 AM Mandy Fitzgerald <
>> mandy_fitzgerald at maranacook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>> This is exactly how we do it at RSU No 38 as well. MainePers told us
>>> that the sub-election to join or not was a one-time permanent election.
>>> They said it follows the sub-time regardless of whether they become an
>>> employee in another capacity at any time. Only the mandatory position would
>>> be MainePers eligible.
>>> ~Mandy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 9:29 AM Lisa Swift <lswift at veaziecs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>   I have received mixed information and would like to know what any of
>>>> you do.  I have an employee that was a sub and refused MEPers so I took SS
>>>> out of her.  She was recently hired as a part time (2 days/wk) ed tech and
>>>> however, on the days that she doesn't work as an ed tech she subs.  For the
>>>> 2 days she is the ed tech I take MEPers out, but on the 3 days she subs I
>>>> still take SS out.  Is this correct?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance for your help!!
>>>> Lisa Swift
>>>> Business, Payroll and Human Resource Manager
>>>> Veazie School Department
>>>> 1040 School Street
>>>> Veazie, ME 04401
>>>> P: (207)947-6573 ext. 309     F: (207)947-6570
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RSU 20 Searsport/Stockton Springs
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